Author: Webb

It’s okay to kill civilians

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Settler Rabbi: Killing innocent people in war is allowed if saves lives

Rabbi Dov Lior, chairman of the settler’s rabbinical council ruled that killing civilians during warfare is permitted if it will save lives.

Uri Glickman

www.maarivintl.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=article&articleID=7626

(2004-05-19 21:52:27.0)

The IDF are allowed to hurt so called innocent civilians during warfare, Chairman of the Yesha rabbinical council (Judea, Samaria and Gaza Strip), Rabbi Dov Lior, said in a Halachic (Jewish law) ruling made public Wednesday.

“The law of our Torah is to have mercy on our soldiers and to save them. This is the real moral behind Israel’s Torah and we must not feel guilty due to foreign morals,” Lior said.

Sources close to the Rabbi explained that Lior made the remarks Tuesday night and they had nothing to do with Wednesday’s events in Gaza. The IDF is allowed to use all means at its disposal to defeat terrorism “even if it means ‘innocent’ people are killed”, the sources said.

The religious community did not publicly condemn Rabbi Lior’s ruling but warned against its implications. “It is a dangerous step that could test all religious IDF commanders taking part in the current fighting”, sources in the Yesha community told Maariv.

Webmaster note: I wonder if this rabbinical sanction extends to German treatment of enemy aliens such as Jews during the Second World War?

NOW we have the proof

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U.S. tipped to Holocaust in ’42

By Richard Willing, USA TODAY

Posted 5/13/2004 10:54 AM

Updated 5/13/2004 11:14 PM

www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2004-05-13-nazi-sympathizers_x.htm

WASHINGTON –; U.S. intelligence officials learned within months of the U.S. entry into World War II that Nazi Germany planned mass killings to eliminate Jews, scholars reviewing newly declassified reports said Thursday.

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“It was an intelligence failure,” said Richard Breitman, an American University Holocaust historian who studied the documents. “The early information was not assimilated or used correctly.”

Breitman was part of a team of scholars, citizens and government officials who reviewed more than 240,000 pages of documents at the National Archives related to Nazi and other World War II-era crimes. The material was from files of the FBI, CIA and its predecessor, the Office of Strategic Services.

The documents show a federal intelligence unit was formed to interview Jews who immigrated from Axis countries in 1941 and 1942. One, Joseph Goldschmied, described how Germans seized money and property from Jews in his hometown, Prague, Czechoslovakia, and sent thousands to die in the Theresienstadt detention camp.

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Webmaster note: It is worth repeating that there are no Nazi documents or code intercepts that support Holocaust extermination claims. Therefore, there cannot be proof of such a program in the National Archives. In fact, there are no such documents or other evidence cited by this article in support of its main claim. Don’t they trot out this “we have now, finally, at long last, this-time-for-certain, found the evidence to support Holocaust extermination claims” story every couple of years? At the very least, these articles acknowledge that up until now, they have found no proof worthy of the name, otherwise, these findings would be neither revelations nor even newsworthy.

The Lucky Survivor

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Holocaust survivor shares memories

Holocaust survivor Nesse Godin holds photograph of her family taken before the war.

by Ann Duble

Standard Editor

May 13, 2004

www.dcmilitary.com/army/standard/9_10/local_news/28993-1.html

Mounds of bodies. One hole for a toilet and another for graves. Every body cavity searched for gems. These are some of Nesse Godin’s memories as a survivor of the World War II Holocaust.

The 75-year-old Godin talked about her experiences surviving a concentration camp, ghetto, four labor camps and a death march at the Days of Remembrance program April 4 at the Post Chapel.

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Godin was only 16 years old in 1944, when she and others were put on a cattle car to an unknown destination. They ended up at Stutthof Concentration Camp where they were told to strip and take a shower. It really was a water shower and not poison gas. “We were lucky,” she noted sadly. The women and girls stood naked for hours, then were searched in every cavity of their bodies for “gems.”

Dead man walking

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Holocaust survivor shares story to honor others

Author speaks to students at CCC about his escape

By Sheridan Lyons

Sun Staff

Originally published May 9, 2004

www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/carroll/
bal-ca.survivor09may09,0,3944032.story?coll=bal-local-carroll

Leo Bretholz was old enough to remember but is young enough to tell his tale: seven years of eluding the Holocaust in Europe, after his mother persuaded her teen-age son to leave his native Austria in 1938 after it was annexed by Nazi Germany.

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Bretholz survived — although he has a 1978 French record book that lists him among the ghosts of Auschwitz. He showed the book listing the victims of the concentration camp in Poland, his yellow felt star and other items to more than 50 students and others at Carroll Community College last week.

“My name is here,” he said, pointing to the telephone directory-sized book, then to himself, but “I am here to tell the story.”

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Gas showers at Auschwitz

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Teen moved by visit to Nazi death camp

East Brunswick senior sees Auschwitz, retraces march to Birkenau

BY SANDI CARPELLO

Correspondent

May 6, 2004

ebs.gmnews.com/news/2004/0506/Front_Page/043.html

Some 7,000 teens from 20 countries participated in the recent tours of death camps including Auschwitz (entrance pictured) as part of the March of the Living.

EAST BRUNSWICK — Inside the concrete walls of Auschwitz, underneath the once-deadly metal shower heads, Aliza Gases knew she would make it out alive.

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Another Miracle Sighet Survivor

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Holocaust Survivor Alice Kern Shares Inspirational Story With Rogue River Students

By Joan Jones, Staff Writer / SouthernOregonNews.com

4:19 pm PT, Tuesday, Apr 20, 2004

www.glendaleoregonnews.com/articles/index.cfm?artOID=181508&cp=10975

Rogue River, Oregon — How does anyone explain the Holocaust and the death of six million innocent people to children who have never known a life without at least the basic comforts? At Rogue River Middle School recently, Holocaust survivor Alice Kern gave a voice to the past for a gymnasium full of elementary and middle schools students. For a full hour they listened silently to Kern’s story. When one student asked how Kern had managed to escape the gas chambers three times, she said, “Miracles. I believe in miracles.”

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Born in [Sighet!] Romania, Kern was 21 years old when she was shipped to Auschwitz with her mother, who was sent to the gas chambers upon arrival. Kern’s father, a very religious man, died earlier of a heart attack after the synagogues were closed. Two brothers escaped the Holocaust, but Kern was not to see them again for 20 years.

“You are the last generation to see a survivor,” she told the assembled students. “I am 81 years old and I will never stop lecturing and speaking. Few survivors are still able to do this.”

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In 1945, the Nazis knew the American and Russian armies were approaching. “They had to kill very fast,” Kern said. Cattle cars full of Greeks, Italians, French and even Germans were brought into the camp to be executed in the gas chambers.

“By the end of the summer cattle cars came in and all the people were killed, no matter how many,” said Kern.

With the Russian army nearing, the Nazis threw open the gates to Auschwitz and forced the inmates to walk mile after mile. […]

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Worse, there was no water and lice were rampant. “My head was covered with lice,” she said. “People got a high temperature and were dying like flies.”

Bergen Belsen was the camp where Anne Frank was taken and where she and her sister died. “There were so many little Anne Franks,” Kern said. “The bodies were piled higher and higher.”

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For more information on Alice Kern or to order her book, Tapestry of Hope, or her video, visit her website at www.alicekern.com/index.html

Good Thing He’s Not a Revisionist!

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SSC professor aims to debunk myths about Holocaust in book

By Jack Butterworth

Monday, April 19, 2004

www.thedailyitemoflynn.com/news/view.bg?articleid=5952

PEABODY — Salem State College History Professor Christopher Mauriello had a warning for those attending the Holocaust Center Boston North’s annual Holocaust commemoration ceremony Sunday afternoon, especially the 14 local survivors of the persecution and murder of 6 million Jews that occurred from 1933-1945, which he called “one of the most important moments in history.”

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Mauriello, who has a book in progress called “Nazi Myths,” said the Holocaust is undergoing in-depth study by historians — not the revisionists who deny the Holocaust ever happened, whom he dismissed with a wave of his hand — but by researchers whose findings may force the survivors and their families to let go of some of the feelings and memories they carry.

“There is anxiety about this,” he admitted, “but historians have to insist on accuracy in place of myths and misconceptions.” He said his talk and the myths he plans to bring forward are based on “consensus among historians” — in fact, he has asked German historians to review a draft of his book for accuracy.

He offered four popular myths about the Holocaust, which he has heard from students taking his course on the subject over the past seven years: Adolf Hitler and the Nazis invented anti-Semitism and brainwashed Germany with anti-Semitic propaganda; Hitler and the Nazis were dominated by the notion of a Master Race; Hitler’s evil imagination created the blueprint for the Holocaust; the Holocaust was run by a ruthless, technocratic, centralized Nazi regime.

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CVCC instructor has an inside view on the Holocaust

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www.ledger-enquirer.com/mld/ledgerenquirer/8450169.htm

Posted on Fri, Apr. 16, 2004

Amy Porche has a sister named Nancy in Louisiana who’s mentally retarded from a complicated birth that deprived her of oxygen. When Amy was a child of about 8 years old, her mother told her that during World War II Hitler put to death those he deemed imperfect.

“I remember her saying to me, ‘Your sister would have been among the first,’ and I knew then how unjust that would be,” said Porche, 34. “I felt such a sense of rage and protection. All the emotions came through.”

Porche, an instructor in English at Chattahoochee Valley Community College, is the speaker Sunday at the annual Holocaust Remembrance Service at Columbus’ Temple Israel. A member of Holy Family Catholic Church, she met Rabbi Tom Friedmann of Temple Israel earlier this year when he came to speak to her students. She is not the first Christian to speak for the temple’s annual service, and Friedmann said he picked her for a local perspective.

“She is dedicated to students, teaching about Holocaust,” Friedmann said. “She has an inside view.”

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